froglette vaxette ([info]tealfroglette) wrote,
@ 2009-01-29 15:06:00
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Current location:freezer
Current mood: curious
Current music:none, no ipod!

talk to me about ipods for music
Thanks!

Talk to me about ipods for music. How does it connect?

What do i need to know? what should i ignore? Fairly well organized stable price due to Apple price setting? Better to purchase at xyz than sams?

Is it better to get an actual industry standard ipod than other mp3 player for dockability and stability of mp3 playing?

What do i need to know?

ah, now edited to ask more: i want to back up every CD toad's made that holds 80 minutes of music. knowing how many 'songs' an ipod holds wont help me. the beatles songs are three minutes, the blues up to 12. i need data in 'hours' so i can count cds we have made of LP's/80min blocks and find out total number of gigs needed for hurricane/natural disaster backup, plus additional time for music industry mfg songs downloaded/cds etc.
It's legal to make a copy of your cd to put on the ipod right?

16 songs per cd, ipod classic holds 30,000 = less than two thousand cds worth of songs. 1875 worth of 16 songs per cd. Yes some are 12, but most of toad's made ones are very close to 80 mins of music, approx 16 songs.


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[info]tiger_stripes
2009-01-29 09:14 pm UTC (link)
The ipod is the only MP3ish player I've had that can take the abuse I deliver. I have the 160GB classic because I have a lot of music, and I don't need the iPod touch (I have an iPhone).

The nano is good if you want a physically smaller player, but I'm pretty happy with my iPod classic.

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[info]knobody
2009-01-29 11:45 pm UTC (link)
how much space the music takes up depends on the file format and (i'm sure i'm not using the correct terms here) bit rate. .mp3's are a lossy compressed format. some files compress more than others, so songs of the exact same length may take up different amounts of space.

also, you can rip the files at different sampling rates and bit rates (there is a difference between the two, no i don't understand it, nor do i care to). some people can't hear (or don't care) the difference between a 128 bit rate and a 256 bit rate. others can distinctly tell the difference and don't care to listen to the lower quality recording. personally i go for the 192 bit recordings. noticeably better quality than 128 (if i'm paying attention), and my ears aren't good enough to tell the difference between 192 and anything higher.

lower bit rate recordings can take 500k per minute roughly. higher quality can take several megs per minute. a standard CD is 800 MB.

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[info]tealfroglette
2009-01-30 02:45 am UTC (link)
what does an ipod play at is there a standard? when one downloads a song from i tunes are you downloading one mp3 of those rates above, or the whole piece of music like on a cd?
how do i know how big an ipod to get toad?

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[info]sylvar
2009-01-30 03:07 am UTC (link)
Are most of his CDs 20th-century popular or folk music? That can take less space than, say, choral music or glitch-pop.

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[info]tealfroglette
2009-01-30 03:28 am UTC (link)
Yes. toad wants to know what glitch-pop is. we don't know.
i'm reading at wiki about ipods since the ipod sales website can't be bothered to answer any of these questions above on my multiple posts and thanks BEN, we might actually comprehend all of the requirments/timeframes/ how it works! this by the end of the weekend. too bad ipod can't be bothered!

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[info]sylvar
2009-01-30 03:09 am UTC (link)
I repeat my advice from a later post: pick a representative sample of these CDs, maybe 5 or 10, and make them into MP3s. You'll find out how long it takes, how much room it takes up when you're done, and by multiplying in order to get 1500 CDs, you'll have an estimate of how big the iPod should be.

iPods are pretty much the only mp3 player with lots of accessories available, and iTunes is a pretty good way of organizing your music. I've been using it for a couple of years and I'm satisfied with it. Ditto iPods.

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[info]tealfroglette
2009-01-30 03:30 am UTC (link)
we've pretty much decided we want an actual ipod. tho i want to ptttt them for refusing to tell us what it does, how it connects, how to make your own music, i mean would it kill em to explain?

itunes is a program?

How does the ipod know what the song title is? I take toad's cd that was on vinyl, there's not a label on the disc. The words are on paper. how do i enter the words so when i say, toad please play Sunpie's BUNNY BREAD for annabug...

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[info]tealfroglette
2009-01-30 03:31 am UTC (link)
do i do this while making the mp3? how does that get xfered to the pod?

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[info]sylvar
2009-01-30 04:46 am UTC (link)
iTunes is a program that you can download for free for Windows and Mac.

When you put the CD in the computer, iTunes will try to guess what it is. You can tell it, though. Usually this involves clicking on the wrong information and typing the right information. Man, I wish I could just come over and show you, it's a lot easier that way...

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[info]knobody
2009-01-30 05:09 am UTC (link)
itunes is a program for ripping/organizing/playing music. it sucks monkey balls. i won't use it. i can't be bothered to move all my music back to where i want it when itunes thinks it should go someplace else, oh, and turning off the option to have it organize stuff for me, still has it organizing stuff for me. more trouble than it's worth.

the itunes store is an online way to purchase music. i have never used it, so i can't say much about it other than we tried to get itunes gift certs for christmas for a couple of people and i couldn't buy emailable gifts on the web site, only can purchase mailable cards (too late) or purchase emailable through itunes the program. m installed itunes to purchase the gifts and it failed anyway. we got them amazon gifts instead. took about 20 seconds instead of 2 hours and it actually worked. so, not impressed with the itunes store either, and i didn't even use it.

so, why use an ipod for emergency tune escape? why not get a small RAID NAS, store your tunes as well as other data files (yes, i know you can put other data files on the ipod) there, then if you have to bug out, grab the NAS and get a cheap mp3 player just for the portable tunage?

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